•’We warned against dialogue with Boko Haram’

By Bashir Adefaka

Nigeria-based global-view prophet, Primate Elijah Babatunde Ayodele, is not comfortable with the administration’s disobedience to the words of God. The Ikere-Ekiti State-born man of God feels bad that the people surrounding our leaders oftentimes do not allow them access to the truth, that is, the word of God, which should have led them aright in the administration of the country and the states, adding that President Jonathan’s needs fasting and prayers if he really means to contest the 2015 election. In this interview, the founder and Head of Inri Evangelical Spiritual Church, Lagos says prophecy is not about doom but guidance which, if obeyed, has ways of linking Nigeria to solution to its problems. Excerpts:

There have been reactions to the state of the nation from virtually all the sectors. As a man of God in the God’s vineyard, what is your own attitude to the way the nation is going?

Everything is well documented. There is nothing that is going on now that has not been documented in my book titled, “Warnings to the Nation”.   So the issue of this country going the way it is had been foretold years back, which must come to pass and the reason is government ignores God. They do not take God’s words seriously. Maybe they are doing that because those words are coming from us who do not belong to CAN, Christian Association of Nigeria, or PFN, Pentecostal Federation of Nigeria. That may be one of their reasons they ignore warnings of the Lord. That is number one.

Primate Ayodele

Number two about the state of the nation is that if a prophet speaks, he finds solution. We said APC, All Progressives Congress, should fast 27, 28, 29 (of October). The question should be, for what? Did they really take the fast serious? Why are they not taking it serious? What is the problem? Now, if anything happens, who do you want to blame?

They are three reasons. One, if they really want to control the central government as a ruling party (in 2015), then they must fast. When they refused the word of God and did not fast, if they now fail, who do you want to blame? That fast can take them to the next level. Then two is for them not to lose any of their leaders and three for the avoidance of wrangling among themselves. But they did not take it serious! That is part of the state of the nation.

Again, we specifically said that there would be problem in the NFF, Nigerian Football Federation. When they picked  Amaju Pinnick, we insisted that there was still going to be problem even before they removed Keshi. Did they really take those words serious?

We said Federal Government should not dialogue with Boko Haram because if they dialogue with some, some will still be in existence. Did they take that serious? Now we read that they dialogued with fake Boko Haram group. Is it not an insult to the Federal Republic of Nigeria?

Okay, what is it that God has not said? Every country has its own national prophet and, if you are a national prophet, forget about may be you talk about government or not. If God could send Samuel to anoint Saul as the king of Israel and that same prophet was also used to anoint David, was Samuel not a national prophet? People like Isaiah and Elijah were famous prophets. God would send them anywhere.

So many things have been predicted and said but they ignored them and so we are where we are.

But Mr. President has just travelled to Israel. Is it not because of his government’s recognition of the words of God?

Are you talking about President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan? What has he got to do in Israel? He is just there wasting time. I had said that Jonathan should go into 14 days fasting and praying if he really wanted to contest the 2015 presidential election. He must go to this fasting and prayer because that is what will help him. We had said it that some people will gang up against him. Is that not what we are seeing now? And more gang-up is to come.

As far back as 2013, we said Aminu Tambuwal will defect from the PDP. Has it not happened? Political troubles in some states which we predicted, have they not happened? Then what were those people concerned looking that they did not seek the face of the Lord as directed by God in order to spare us all of these troubles? And we still have political crisis coming up in Ekiti, Rivers, Lagos, Oyo, Kano, Kaduna, Sokoto, Taraba and Gombe. How are we going to manage it?

And everybody talks about peaceful 2015.

Yes, in 2015, we all want peace but has the government taken the step to peace? There will be trouble before the elections and there will be trouble after the elections. The post-election trouble is what I want to beseech Nigeria to curtail with prayers and our doings. First to seventh of January 2015, let us pray on our own for peaceful elections.

Churches, mosques should commit the 2015 elections in the hands of God because the polls are a serious matter! Serious, not because it will be the end or mark the collapse of Nigeria. No. Nigeria will not collapse in 2015 but, in the next 30 years, we may not have Nigeria anymore because I see republics coming of this country, but it will not start in 2015. The current situation in the country is what it is because our leaders berate God. They are not ruling with the fear of God. They go to Mecca only for fancy prayers and go to Jerusalem for relaxing prayers.

But Jonathan must take this observation of 14-day fasting and prayers serious beginning from the first of December.

As for those talking of Buhari as the messiah, picking Buhari is not the issue. The issue is what can he do? Even among the governors, so many things are coming up. The country is shaking. There is danger ahead of the country and Nigeria is sitting on a time-bomb. We should not allow the ship to sink because allowing it to sink will cause a lot of problems. We have just started, but Nigeria needs a lot of prayers to survive the moments. The country will not break yet but I can see violence, trouble.

We are talking about Boko Haram of now, what of the Boko Haram that is coming. Shekau, I can spiritually confirm to you, is dead. Nobody is lying about whether or not he is dead. He is dead. But somebody will take over from him, the group will divide into two, some will cease fire, some will not cease fire and they will now operate under a new name.

So government can prepare against that…

Those people are already recruiting and training. This is talking from spiritual realm.

Since the men of God are actually the ones God has placed in charge of the world and people that are thought to know what to do, don’t take heed, what are you doing to help get the operators of the society to come to their senses?

I am not a minister in Jonathan’s cabinet. I am only fit to put things right in God’s kingdom, not of Jonathan, not of any government in the world. The only way I know that I am fit is passing the message through your medium.

How do you appraise the media in collaborating to amplifying the message?

I do not read papers all the time but I think the media have done their own best in passing the message across. My advice is that the media should not tamper with prophecies. They should deliver prophecy the way it is and not to interpret in their own way.

It is believed that because the Church has mingled too much with government, it is no longer playing its precise role in the society. How can the Church be made better?

The Church is also in government. Government is the Church of bringing people together to formulate policies to move a nation forward. That is my own definition of government. You may have your own definition of what government is all about, where it comprises the Obas, the Church and Mosque leaders, the politicians and so on.

It comprises of so many bodies coming together to decide the fate of a given society. You cannot separate, therefore, the Church or the mosque from the government. The role of the Church and Islamic body in government is to tell them what the Lord says. But how many prophets are there to say ‘this is what the Lord says’ and stand by it?

Finally, I have said that in Lagos, APC needs to pray hard if they really want to win. And once they pick an aspirant linked to a monarch and a top party leader as their candidate, the PDP should just be celebrating because, that will be the beginning of the end of APC in Lagos and other states of the South-west. All these should guide the society to get its acts together to do the right things all the time because does not leave anybody unguided.